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	<title>Comments on: Show #135 (Special): Tesla Responds</title>
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		<title>By: Patrick Mc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Mc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 06:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad you did the quick turnaround interview, but I think you left out an important point and one that Tesla will need to deal with.  

One of the reasons that Martin was able to so effectively frighten the cyclists was that vehicles operating on electric power are extremely quiet.  I believe Martin was hinting at this within his article (&quot;Knowing they wouldn&#039;t hear me coming&quot;) and that quietness, while somewhat desirable, does pose a safety hazard, especially to the blind and to cyclists who use the sound of an oncoming vehicle to take precautions.  

I believe that hybrid car companies are looking in to methods to develop a distinctive, audible but minimally invasive sound that would be emitted when operating on electric power and the same would be needed for the Tesla.

I personally was almost hit by a Prius that was pulling out of an alley and that I was unable to see or hear until it pulled onto the street.  Not sure if you can follow up with Rachel on this point but I think it is a part of the Martin incident that is specific to the Tesla (no other vehicle would be as quiet at high speeds).

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you did the quick turnaround interview, but I think you left out an important point and one that Tesla will need to deal with.  </p>
<p>One of the reasons that Martin was able to so effectively frighten the cyclists was that vehicles operating on electric power are extremely quiet.  I believe Martin was hinting at this within his article (&#8221;Knowing they wouldn&#8217;t hear me coming&#8221;) and that quietness, while somewhat desirable, does pose a safety hazard, especially to the blind and to cyclists who use the sound of an oncoming vehicle to take precautions.  </p>
<p>I believe that hybrid car companies are looking in to methods to develop a distinctive, audible but minimally invasive sound that would be emitted when operating on electric power and the same would be needed for the Tesla.</p>
<p>I personally was almost hit by a Prius that was pulling out of an alley and that I was unable to see or hear until it pulled onto the street.  Not sure if you can follow up with Rachel on this point but I think it is a part of the Martin incident that is specific to the Tesla (no other vehicle would be as quiet at high speeds).</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://www.thefredcast.com/?p=904&#038;cpage=1#comment-58395</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Canterbury Kent. We&#039;ve had cases of passengers leaning out of car windows to hit cyclists, both in this city and elsewhere in Kent. In one incident a young woman was knocked over due to this. The last thing we need is morons in the press who think they&#039;re clever writing stuff like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Canterbury Kent. We&#8217;ve had cases of passengers leaning out of car windows to hit cyclists, both in this city and elsewhere in Kent. In one incident a young woman was knocked over due to this. The last thing we need is morons in the press who think they&#8217;re clever writing stuff like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Lennie Nash</title>
		<link>http://www.thefredcast.com/?p=904&#038;cpage=1#comment-58393</link>
		<dc:creator>Lennie Nash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what I wrote on the anti-James Martin campaign....bit.ly/3GIPo3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what I wrote on the anti-James Martin campaign&#8230;.bit.ly/3GIPo3</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Chaiken</title>
		<link>http://www.thefredcast.com/?p=904&#038;cpage=1#comment-58390</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison Chaiken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why David wasted time covering this brouhaha.    Clearly Tesla Motors has no influence on what journalists say in their reviews; we didn&#039;t need to hear an interview with a Tesla spokesman to know that.     More than anything else, the whole incident shows how bored Twitter users are.     I look forward to hearing David&#039;s coverage of the Vuelta and possible comments on bike improvements in the government stimulus spending, but this podcast was not worth downloading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why David wasted time covering this brouhaha.    Clearly Tesla Motors has no influence on what journalists say in their reviews; we didn&#8217;t need to hear an interview with a Tesla spokesman to know that.     More than anything else, the whole incident shows how bored Twitter users are.     I look forward to hearing David&#8217;s coverage of the Vuelta and possible comments on bike improvements in the government stimulus spending, but this podcast was not worth downloading.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.thefredcast.com/?p=904&#038;cpage=1#comment-58389</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great interview, David! You definitely want to take her up on the offer to drive the Tesla. I&#039;ve had the opportunity to drive them three times and can attest to the incredible acceleration. 

I also drive an EV as my daily driver. Cyclists should not take this moron&#039;s ranting as any reason not to like EVs since EVs are going to be cyclists&#039; friends. As a bike rider myself, I hate to breathe the crap from tailpipes when I have to share the road with cars. Once all those cars are running on electricity, we&#039;ll never have to breathe that stuff again.

If you&#039;re interested in EVs, go to www.pluginamerica.org for more info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great interview, David! You definitely want to take her up on the offer to drive the Tesla. I&#8217;ve had the opportunity to drive them three times and can attest to the incredible acceleration. </p>
<p>I also drive an EV as my daily driver. Cyclists should not take this moron&#8217;s ranting as any reason not to like EVs since EVs are going to be cyclists&#8217; friends. As a bike rider myself, I hate to breathe the crap from tailpipes when I have to share the road with cars. Once all those cars are running on electricity, we&#8217;ll never have to breathe that stuff again.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re interested in EVs, go to <a href="http://www.pluginamerica.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.pluginamerica.org</a> for more info.</p>
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		<title>By: John Bertram, UK</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Bertram, UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great interview, thanks a lot!

On a personal level, I could care less about James Martin - especially since I saw his attitude in the Mille Miglia special aired on UK television.  He&#039;s just another idiot to add to the list of people I ignore!

I disagree strongly with what he has written, and I am sure that what goes around comes around ... but I find it a little distasteful that people are actually threatening violence and bodily harm to the man!  Don&#039;t stoop to the level of unthinking thugs, please??

Perhaps he needs to get on a bike himself?  I was always careful driving my car near cyclists, but having taken up a bit of cycling over the last couple of months, I have realised how vulnerable a bag of flesh and bones on some metal pipework is!  I am now extra extra careful and considerate towards cyclists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great interview, thanks a lot!</p>
<p>On a personal level, I could care less about James Martin &#8211; especially since I saw his attitude in the Mille Miglia special aired on UK television.  He&#8217;s just another idiot to add to the list of people I ignore!</p>
<p>I disagree strongly with what he has written, and I am sure that what goes around comes around &#8230; but I find it a little distasteful that people are actually threatening violence and bodily harm to the man!  Don&#8217;t stoop to the level of unthinking thugs, please??</p>
<p>Perhaps he needs to get on a bike himself?  I was always careful driving my car near cyclists, but having taken up a bit of cycling over the last couple of months, I have realised how vulnerable a bag of flesh and bones on some metal pipework is!  I am now extra extra careful and considerate towards cyclists.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.thefredcast.com/?p=904&#038;cpage=1#comment-58387</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always thought James Martin was an average cook and chubby arshole but I was wrong.  He&#039;s a fat idiot who&#039;s lack of exercise means he can&#039;t even keep a grielfriend.  Anyone who saw his programme about the Italian motor race he took part in will realise he&#039;s a very imature and egotistical little prick - hopefully he&#039;ll end up wrapped round a tree someday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought James Martin was an average cook and chubby arshole but I was wrong.  He&#8217;s a fat idiot who&#8217;s lack of exercise means he can&#8217;t even keep a grielfriend.  Anyone who saw his programme about the Italian motor race he took part in will realise he&#8217;s a very imature and egotistical little prick &#8211; hopefully he&#8217;ll end up wrapped round a tree someday.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ade - I sympathise very much with what happened on your ride. Surely this was just the actions of a few cretins in a white van and hardly representative of motorists generally.&quot;

Barry - if it were the actions of the few it would be fine. Clearly you don&#039;t see it from a regular UK cyclists point of view. I commute 20 miles a day by bike and/or car depending on where I&#039;m going and the weather, so I see both sides, but it&#039;s pretty much once or twice *per journey* someone purposefully tries to push you off the road (and I&#039;m not just talking accidentally/didn&#039;t see you there etc). I&#039;ve lost count of the number of times I&#039;ve had abuse yelled at me, things thrown at me etc and I&#039;m not a lycra wearing, red light jumping type either. It&#039;s almost a sport for the idiots here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ade &#8211; I sympathise very much with what happened on your ride. Surely this was just the actions of a few cretins in a white van and hardly representative of motorists generally.&#8221;</p>
<p>Barry &#8211; if it were the actions of the few it would be fine. Clearly you don&#8217;t see it from a regular UK cyclists point of view. I commute 20 miles a day by bike and/or car depending on where I&#8217;m going and the weather, so I see both sides, but it&#8217;s pretty much once or twice *per journey* someone purposefully tries to push you off the road (and I&#8217;m not just talking accidentally/didn&#8217;t see you there etc). I&#8217;ve lost count of the number of times I&#8217;ve had abuse yelled at me, things thrown at me etc and I&#8217;m not a lycra wearing, red light jumping type either. It&#8217;s almost a sport for the idiots here.</p>
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		<title>By: Celebrity chef stirs up cyclist hate campaign - Politic News, Videos</title>
		<link>http://www.thefredcast.com/?p=904&#038;cpage=1#comment-58385</link>
		<dc:creator>Celebrity chef stirs up cyclist hate campaign - Politic News, Videos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Telsa, which loaned Martin the car, wasn&#8217;t happy either. &#8220;In this case, we&#8217;re not even using it [linking to the review from our site]. It is really odd. I have to sadly admit this is not the first time a journalist in the UK has brought up this issue of wheatgrass-eating hippies riding bikes. [But] this is definitely the most extreme version of it,&#8221; Rachel Konrad, Tesla&#8217;s communications manager, told the FredCast cycling podcast. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Telsa, which loaned Martin the car, wasn&#8217;t happy either. &#8220;In this case, we&#8217;re not even using it [linking to the review from our site]. It is really odd. I have to sadly admit this is not the first time a journalist in the UK has brought up this issue of wheatgrass-eating hippies riding bikes. [But] this is definitely the most extreme version of it,&#8221; Rachel Konrad, Tesla&#8217;s communications manager, told the FredCast cycling podcast. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Simon E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps we cycllists appear to overreact, but if you ride on the road regularly you know what it&#039;s like, and it&#039;s not nice. In fact it&#039;s pretty scary. Unfortunately a significant number of car drivers have no regard for anyone else&#039;s safety. Morons like James Martin just make it worse.

Although I ride a pedal-powered two-wheeled contraption, I don&#039;t drink herbal tea, I *really* dislike New Labour (including Ms Harman) and I even drive a car, albeit considerately. I also avoid using the term &#039;hate&#039; or feel the need to blame other road users for my own shortcomings. If you substitute &#039;cyclists&#039; for another group - schoolkids, doctors, parents, muslims - it might appear less innocuous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps we cycllists appear to overreact, but if you ride on the road regularly you know what it&#8217;s like, and it&#8217;s not nice. In fact it&#8217;s pretty scary. Unfortunately a significant number of car drivers have no regard for anyone else&#8217;s safety. Morons like James Martin just make it worse.</p>
<p>Although I ride a pedal-powered two-wheeled contraption, I don&#8217;t drink herbal tea, I *really* dislike New Labour (including Ms Harman) and I even drive a car, albeit considerately. I also avoid using the term &#8216;hate&#8217; or feel the need to blame other road users for my own shortcomings. If you substitute &#8216;cyclists&#8217; for another group &#8211; schoolkids, doctors, parents, muslims &#8211; it might appear less innocuous.</p>
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